Alliance Wars Early Access

[Melli]

I have surrendered to two battles today, Kikko from the alliance can verify these as that account defended most of my attacks today.

If you had defenders or helpers in your AW att’s, it counts as a lose, att doesn’t count. It’s a bug but devs know about it already.

[Sirio Flash]

Jay leroy

Is it correct that during the AW I can't change patron? I had correctly selected Aphrodite as my patron to face a village where she was perfect but in battle she wasn't

[Andreac]

Jay leroy

Memento Mori vs European Union battle. More feedback. If the allies support me it doesn't give me victory and the gods don't turn gray. If I go alone everything works.

From what we have figured out, if that happens just keep attacking base until it weakens, some you have to do over and over. Hope that helps

[Andreac]

Morning, so today a few of us had decided to do some different strategies with our war. 2 of us were going to chip away at the top bases and get the other players to take them when no base was left. First round attack I won base & it fell, so I lost all my gods. Knew that would happen. Took my second line to another base to chip at it, I did 2 attacks, on the 3rd it showed the base as weaker. Half of base was gone, and it had the energy bar across, but this time all the gods I used greyed out. Is this supposed to happen when you don’t take the base??? This hasn’t happened before and we could continue on using our gods until the base was gone.

[MaxCronos]

Why is my level 115 base (Pan Pan in Take It Easy vs Legends ) worth 29 stars to them while Ali of Legends who is 151 and over 1000 trophies stronger than me on D only worth 15 stars to us? We have fewer members… so more stars per base for us? Do all potential stars need to equal out? Will this thing get sorted out as matchups get better?

[Andreac]

An idea, I don’t know if possibility, but if we could have an uw and ow patron, or the ability to make another patron after your first one gets greyed out?

[Kupo]

Is it possible to have your clans stars/gods shown sorted by current highest stars or alphabetical? Like the clan roster it's a pain the in arse to look at.

[Jay]

An update on the issue with battles not counting / gods not going gray -- this should now be fixed! Please let us know if you experience this issue from here on. Hopefully this will greatly improve the feel and correctness of War matches!

Other updates:
-War battle list will now be sorted in descending order by attack time (in other words, most recent battle on top.)
-Assists will be displayed in your battle records
-Starting with tomorrow's War, underworld temple counts should now be correct

Hope these help!

[Jay]

Jay leroy

Is it correct that during the AW I can't change patron? I had correctly selected Aphrodite as my patron to face a village where she was perfect but in battle she wasn't

Hi Sirio Flash, your War Pantheon should be locked after you perform your first War attack.

We kept thinking of Patron-shifting exploits that could be a little too powerful and decided to lock it into place in this way.

[Jay]

Why is my level 115 base (Pan Pan in Take It Easy vs Legends ) worth 29 stars to them while Ali of Legends who is 151 and over 1000 trophies stronger than me on D only worth 15 stars to us? We have fewer members… so more stars per base for us? Do all potential stars need to equal out? Will this thing get sorted out as matchups get better?

Each side in the War protects 1000 War Stars. These will be distributed among the bases on your side depending on the perceived strength / value of each player's city.

One of the big reasons both sides protect the same number of War Stars is we want to be very sure that Alliance Wars does not encourage Alliances to cut loose weaker members. We were concerned that if more players meant you had to protect more stars, Alliances might feel forced to cut their rosters more ruthlessly to succeed in War.

In the end, you will be matched up with bases according to the War Tier your Alliance has achieved. Alliances with more members, particularly more highly active members will have a pretty big natural advantage in War. Those Alliances are (we think) likely to dominate in the top War Tiers.

I hope that at least explains how things will work and some of the factors of Alliance culture that are on our mind for this feature.

[Jay]

Are the rewards at the end of a war supposed to be so low (referring to uw) when boosted with gems? Can we have an equal amount of rewards for olympus and underworld Jay and leroy? If they were equal I would probably never mind spending 100 gems... but as it is, it doesn't seem worth it at all

Good question -- these rewards are in large part proportional to your current Olympus and Underworld levels. (Along with factors like your War Tier, your participation, etc.)

Any disparity between Olympus and Underworld rewards is going to be down to which one you are currently high level in. High level Underworld cities will receive bigger Underworld rewards.

[Olympia]

Good question -- these rewards are in large part proportional to your current Olympus and Underworld levels. (Along with factors like your War Tier, your participation, etc.)

Any disparity between Olympus and Underworld rewards is going to be down to which one you are currently high level in. High level Underworld cities will receive bigger Underworld rewards.

Thanks Jay for your answer. In this case, either I am not understanding well or there is a bug in the rewards system too. My underworld level (114) is actually higher than Olympus (113) and my trophies are very high for both. So how come as a boosted reward do I get about 16 million rock and not even a million obsidian? They should be very similar in amounts just due to the similar levels. Unfortunately I do not have a screenshot.. so I might not be exact in the amounts.. but you get the idea.

Apart from the above I also noticed (in both ALLIANCE WARS and normal attacks) that on placing supports, say a group of skeletons, part of them are invisible at first. Charon's shield is invisible too in some attacks and also the dots/stars of the monuments.

[Alni]

Hi Sirio Flash, your War Pantheon should be locked after you perform your first War attack.

We kept thinking of Patron-shifting exploits that could be a little too powerful and decided to lock it into place in this way.

Not really Jay .. Believe me, it won't be overpowering, it'll instead be fun and it'll allow a good regulation wherein all the gods will be used beneficially because a lot of people like me don't have their uw bases as good as the ow ones... I myself am a player from 2020 and I have started playing again only ig 15 days ago... So my uw is only 15 days in age... I hope you understand that this patron shifting ability would mean the ability to pair up the weak ow gods with uw gods and still be able to get like 3-4 stars to me and a lot of players like me...
please consider this

[Jay]

Thanks Jay for your answer. In this case, either I am not understanding well or there is a bug in the rewards system too. My underworld level (114) is actually higher than Olympus (113) and my trophies are very high for both. So how come as a boosted reward do I get about 16 million rock and not even a million obsidian? They should be very similar in amounts just due to the similar levels. Unfortunately I do not have a screenshot.. so I might not be exact in the amounts.. but you get the idea.

Apart from the above I also noticed (in both ALLIANCE WARS and normal attacks) that on placing supports, say a group of skeletons, part of them are invisible at first. Charon's shield is invisible too in some attacks and also the dots/stars of the monuments.

You are right about how the Underworld rewards should behave! Thank you for this info, Olympia, we will investigate!

[Kupo]

Not really Jay .. Believe me, it won't be overpowering, it'll instead be fun and it'll allow a good regulation wherein all the gods will be used beneficially because a lot of people like me don't have their uw bases as good as the ow ones... I myself am a player from 2020 and I have started playing again only ig 15 days ago... So my uw is only 15 days in age... I hope you understand that this patron shifting ability would mean the ability to pair up the weak ow gods with uw gods and still be able to get like 3-4 stars to me and a lot of players like me...
please consider this

They didn't want people swapping patrons every single time before battles for something else can't remember what, think it was environments being tied to patron. And I agree with them that it is so exploitable if being allowed to swap Patrons between attacks.
If one clan remembers to swap Patrons and the other doesn't, that's not very fair. You're essentially powering up big time between each attack and it's also exhausting to swap every time, then say you forget you just did a war then go to attack and your Patron is some weird one. No thanks.