I think Hermes needs a buff

[Marshmalo]

Well, to be fair they just upgraded sunstrike and basically every patron by +50% in the 4.3 update.

they just also went hero-crazy in the same update which, in my opinion, just undermined the whole purpose of boosting other patrons. Too much emphasis on heroes, that you basically have to use apollo or hera, or choose to play mono and avoid altogether.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe those patron buffs were to compensate for the additional heroes? So, exactly, nothing really changed. But yes, sun strike was buffed by a tiny bit. Didnt really change anything tho 😂

[Miguel243]

Well, to be fair they just upgraded sunstrike and basically every patron by +50% in the 4.3 update.

they just also went hero-crazy in the same update which, in my opinion, just undermined the whole purpose of boosting other patrons. Too much emphasis on heroes, that you basically have to use apollo or hera, or choose to play mono and avoid altogether.

What are you saying? It's good that patrons are countered by heroes and vice-versa. I like both additions actually.

[Rocko]

Before 4.3 there was a lot of discussion about increasing patron variety, alot of back and forth about nerfing artemis vs boosting other patrons.

4.3 should have JUST boosted other patrons in my opinion. no one asked for multiple heroes at the time, all ppl wanted was a good reason to use someone other than artemis, poseidon, or hera as patron.

Adding heroes undermined what 4.3 should have been. There is no increased patron variety, they just swapped artemis for apollo in utility. They also pushed alot of higher lvl players to switch to monogod style, bc slowpush vs heroes is tedious.

[Unspeakable1]

I mean, there is still a large number of Arty, Posy, and Hera patrons, but yes, Apollo is on the rise since he's single-handedly the best at taking out heroes. I guess we have seen less Ares patrons... He's was, at one point, a favorite. I wouldn't know. I'm still all aboard the Hades train.

[Marshmalo]

Before 4.3 there was a lot of discussion about increasing patron variety, alot of back and forth about nerfing artemis vs boosting other patrons.

4.3 should have JUST boosted other patrons in my opinion. no one asked for multiple heroes at the time, all ppl wanted was a good reason to use someone other than artemis, poseidon, or hera as patron.

Adding heroes undermined what 4.3 should have been. There is no increased patron variety, they just swapped artemis for apollo in utility. They also pushed alot of higher lvl players to switch to monogod style, bc slowpush vs heroes is tedious.

I agree with this. Now the 3 heroes situation warrants an even bigger boost to weak patrons. Like why will you ever go charm building when there is flaming arrows to counter the heroes which are taking a huge bulk of defense if you don't avoid them entirely?

Imo at this point, weak patrons need drastic changes like new mechanics or smthng as no amount of power boost can make them a viable option against 3 heroes.

[SeaFoot]

I agree with this. Now the 3 heroes situation warrants an even bigger boost to weak patrons. Like why will you ever go charm building when there is flaming arrows to counter the heroes which are taking a huge bulk of defense if you don't avoid them entirely?

Imo at this point, weak patrons need drastic changes like new mechanics or smthng as no amount of power boost can make them a viable option against 3 heroes.

Leave my Apollo alone