How to defend against Hermes Patron levels 120 - 125?

[Umutcan]

I don't think there is a need to change hermes regroup range. At high level and big bases it would make it impossible for players to win if you can't reach certain parts of the base and and run for that destination and your inspiration runs out and your gods can't take temples? Then you can just surrender and not attack anyways.

I think hermes is fine as it is. Then I would suggest people to talk about Zeus too as he is very op too, people can just stand and just spam his ability and destroy bases. Can beat bases liek geo or level 120s can reach 5000 trophies.

[Kupo]

I don't think there is a need to change hermes regroup range. At high level and big bases it would make it impossible for players to win if you can't reach certain parts of the base and and run for that destination and your inspiration runs out and your gods can't take temples? Then you can just surrender and not attack anyways.

I think hermes is fine as it is. Then I would suggest people to talk about Zeus too as he is very op too, people can just stand and just spam his ability and destroy bases. Can beat bases liek geo or level 120s can reach 5000 trophies.

Hid-High Zeus can be killed now compared to before and far easier.

Hermes you cannot. Athena is taking the attack on drop, Hermes is running around with haste on that has 60-80% avoid dmg, Zeus time slow, Kraken is taking all the attacks, and Hera just bombs and reflects gorgons. It is literally over in less than a minute in nearly all. By the time everything runs out, everything that could kill them are dead past certain heros and they can't even catch up to them.

[Umutcan]

Hid-High Zeus can be killed now compared to before and far easier.

Hermes you cannot. Athena is taking the attack on drop, Hermes is running around with haste on that has 60-80% avoid dmg, Zeus time slow, Kraken is taking all the attacks, and Hera just bombs and reflects gorgons. It is literally over in less than a minute in nearly all. By the time everything runs out, everything that could kill them are dead past certain heros and they can't even catch up to them.

I think its not that always easy for players below 130 level with Hermes. I mean the attacking style is fast and quick like that but it's not invincible and mostly depends on players ability. And certainly mono players love playing fast and why should they forced to play something that lasts more than 2 mins? Win or lose under 2 mins is better. I really saw players who struggled with Hermes. I saw many instances zeus couldnt be stopped too. The players avoided everything on the base and spammed the first ability and got rid of troops, towers and everything.

[Kupo]

I think its not that always easy for players below 130 level with Hermes. I mean the attacking style is fast and quick like that but it's not invincible and mostly depends on players ability. And certainly mono players love playing fast and why should they forced to play something that lasts more than 2 mins? Win or lose under 2 mins is better. I really saw players who struggled with Hermes. I saw many instances zeus couldnt be stopped too. The players avoided everything on the base and spammed the first ability and got rid of troops, towers and everything.

Went through my recent history of defense. 6 of each of Hermes and Zeus Patrons. The biggest difference is that all Hermes gods are always 4-6 gods only used. Whereas Zeus is all of them. I'm about to hit OW 115. I'd rather vs a zeus patron one than a hermes because at least there's a chance to win there especially if a Perseus catches up. Hermes just runs off and never gets touched.

[Seaweed]

Wish they can buff slowpush again to its former glory

[Olympia]

Zeus has been nerfed enough now.. he can be easily killed and only very skilled Zeus-users manage to pull it off and raise their trophies further. And as Kupo said, while using patron zeus, all gods are used whereas with Hermes, attacks are done with great ease and not all gods are used. Hermes just uses haste and he never gets touched. Nerfing Hermes is the next best move towards balanced gods I guess.

I have also noticed a fair amount of people using Apollo patron again and they seem to be doing well as well. Especially w.r.t. heroes.. he is the best at killing them. Not even Hera can withstand the onslaught of the centaurs along with Perseus and Theseus. Speaking of the latter.. it seems to me that he does need some nerfing to HIS inspiration.

[Umutcan]

I had people with Hermes patron lose to my base multiple times after changing my base a bit recently. Some used all their gods, some surrendered after few gods were used.. How about that? It's not fair people speaking about only through their perspectives, their battle history and can't see a broader picture. What do mono players have left with if there is a nerf for him? It would kill mono and would make slow push superior. Ares or poseidon mono is just too weak currently. I don't want anything for myself but for my friends who wants to keep enjoying this game.

[Melli]

Hermes is last possible mono god, they nerfed Ares already, nerfed Poseidon, since Horses, Poseidon as Patron is useless too because Hermes is dying without being Patron very easily. We have at the end only slow push, how boring is a game with only 1 possible strategy to att? Me speaking for myself, i don’t like playing slow push, I like fast att’s, without needing 5 min to destroy a base… after every update people complain about next god, every update is about nerfing and boosting, we get a good god just to nerf him next time again, If they nerf with next update Hermes, you all will find the next god you can complain about. And destroying mono just because some people don’t like it or maybe can’t even play it, is not a solution for balance, having different strategies makes the game in my opinion more interesting.

[Melli]

And about Zeus, I know a 120 player who can kill geo base which is not easy and level 152 with Zeus Patron with just 1 help, yes he’s skilled but this shows how strong Zeus still is.

[Kupo]

I had people with Hermes patron lose to my base multiple times after changing my base a bit recently. Some used all their gods, some surrendered after few gods were used.. How about that? It's not fair people speaking about only through their perspectives, their battle history and can't see a broader picture. What do mono players have left with if there is a nerf for him? It would kill mono and would make slow push superior. Ares or poseidon mono is just too weak currently. I don't want anything for myself but for my friends who wants to keep enjoying this game.

Got a screenshot of your level and bases? Unless they drop Hermes first/lucky shot or messes up by running into a hero your base will lose for anything less than at least 120 from not having every slot filled up.

Hermes is last possible mono god, they nerfed Ares already, nerfed Poseidon, since Horses, Poseidon as Patron is useless too because Hermes is dying without being Patron very easily. We have at the end only slow push, how boring is a game with only 1 possible strategy to att? Me speaking for myself, i don’t like playing slow push, I like fast att’s, without needing 5 min to destroy a base… after every update people complain about next god, every update is about nerfing and boosting, we get a good god just to nerf him next time again, If they nerf with next update Hermes, you all will find the next god you can complain about. And destroying mono just because some people don’t like it or maybe can’t even play it, is not a solution for balance, having different strategies makes the game in my opinion more interesting.

Hermes can't be killed and makes everyone else unkillable. People don't just complain about random **** without experience, and FYI they change gods around to make different metas and not feel stale. Hermes has a clear degree of winning regardless of the base used vs any other god that will get buffed if they do nerfs.

I was asking for a stratgety for how to counter Hermes betwee levels 100 and 125, Not about hermes/mono players complaining about him. Because it's still something no-ones answered past being scared of a nerf that'll eventually happen.

[Orestis]

Defense against mono or slow attacks from Hermes?
try your army to be on corners and lots of towers on the center of your base,Heroes also need to be well placed.. nerfing Hermes probably will be wrong, definitely for -130 lv players at least, cause there's no other patron playable for mono atm,maybe Poseidon, but needs more effort to achieve victory

[Olympia]

Maybe that is what the developers are trying to do... trying to reduce the effectiveness of mono because most players have been grumbling about it for ages!
And yes.. gods get nerfed.. I was the first to write since the last update how much I hated Zeus being nerfed.. but I had to accept it and still kept playing with him as patron. Most people changed him so I cannot understand this hate towards Zeus.

The same applies to anyone who is using Hermes... if he gets nerfed, well... just find a way to go around it

I find battles much harder with Zeus now but I still win... sometimes I have met your own bases of high level players over 150 and still found a way. So you see.. the same can be done with Hermes I guess.

[Melli]

Maybe that is what the developers are trying to do... trying to reduce the effectiveness of mono because most players have been grumbling about it for ages!
And yes.. gods get nerfed.. I was the first to write since the last update how much I hated Zeus being nerfed.. but I had to accept it and still kept playing with him as patron. Most people changed him so I cannot understand this hate towards Zeus.

The same applies to anyone who is using Hermes... if he gets nerfed, well... just find a way to go around it

I find battles much harder with Zeus now but I still win... sometimes I have met your own bases of high level players over 150 and still found a way. So you see.. the same can be done with Hermes I guess.

Im Level 129 and met the 150+ bases multiple times every evening I play, i have evenings where i have to att geo 3 times lol, not even the high level players in my alli get this bases as often as me.

The difference is, that for slow push you have many options about Patrons, atm Apollo, Zeus, Hera, even Hermes is a option for slow push, with mono you don’t have this, you have atm Hermes, Pose as patron you have to be lucky with Hermes. And reducing the effectiveness of Mono? Then we are where I said earlier, we kill mono and at the end there is 1 possible strategy you can use, without having any other options

[Umutcan]

Got a screenshot of your level and bases? Unless they drop Hermes first/lucky shot or messes up by running into a hero your base will lose for anything less than at least 120 from not having every slot filled up.

Level 143, Umutcan, you can find me easily on leaderboard. Sure I'm kinda high level and doesn't relate to your base building or stones but they can be stopped too but no idea on your level. Maybe the problem is bases are smaller at your level and there are many spaces so it makes hermes players easy to beat it. But if a base is packed and well built with towers and gorgons etc some people might lose. And my base is apollo environment atm btw. And they haven't always made terrible mistakes that led to their losing. This screenshot was just one example out of more but obviously there are many times they beat it too.

[Umutcan]

Maybe that is what the developers are trying to do... trying to reduce the effectiveness of mono because most players have been grumbling about it for ages!
And yes.. gods get nerfed.. I was the first to write since the last update how much I hated Zeus being nerfed.. but I had to accept it and still kept playing with him as patron. Most people changed him so I cannot understand this hate towards Zeus.

The same applies to anyone who is using Hermes... if he gets nerfed, well... just find a way to go around it

I find battles much harder with Zeus now but I still win... sometimes I have met your own bases of high level players over 150 and still found a way. So you see.. the same can be done with Hermes I guess.

Sorry don't get this like a personal attack or something, just my observation but you are level 114 and you have 4904 trophies, if this was how zeus was nerfed I don't see any success in it. Unless you att easies but you said you attacked high level bases above 150. What would you have without the zeus nerf? 5100 trophies? Then I think you or people should be fine with Hermes too, can you point few players who use hermes patron and between 110-120 levels who have trophies at the same range as yours?

And options with mono are limited as Melli said, you can't play with poseidon or ares anymore effectively. Slow push players have many other patron options. It's really lame tbh that I have seen zeus patron players who just stand on a corner and use the first skill until the entire defenses are wiped out.

So I think a nerf would be too drastic for Hermes players. You have to att certain ways and certain temples. Chances of winning high level bases would be reduced too much for 130- players as the 150+ bases are already too hard for them and there are not many other patron options too.